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blackwidow_dc
03-02-2005, 08:15 AM
Okay guys as long as UPS comes through with my rings I will be putting on my rims tonight. I plan on using my torque wrench to make sure they are on tight. I know the montes used about 70lbs. Any ideas for the 18s? would it be the same? Thanks. :)
DragonEye
03-02-2005, 08:16 AM
use a breaker bar ;) lol
blackwidow_dc
03-02-2005, 08:21 AM
im a girl, im a perfectionist... i dont exactly have the strength of a guy, and i want to make sure they are tight...
DragonEye
03-02-2005, 08:22 AM
[QUOTE=BlackWidow_DC]im a girl, im a perfectionist... i dont exactly have the strength of a guy, and i want to make sure they are tight...[/QUOTE]
i stand on it to make sure its tight... so that means i have 150lbs not to mention the extended weight :p
blackwidow_dc
03-02-2005, 08:23 AM
torque wrench is easier...
DragonEye
03-02-2005, 08:24 AM
how would you know? your the one thats asking lol
blackwidow_dc
03-02-2005, 08:31 AM
Ive used the torque wrench many a time. i know that is easier than standing on anything...
okay is there anyone that can actually answer this?
madcap
03-02-2005, 08:43 AM
i've heard at least 45lbs, so 70 would be good.
the torque specifications would not change due to rim size.
blackwidow_dc
03-02-2005, 08:46 AM
thanks Madcap!
like i said... im a perfectionist... i wanted to be sure :D
artfuldubber
03-02-2005, 08:51 AM
I have never used a torque wrench on lugs to be perfectly honest... I just use the VW lug wrench and get those fuckers as tight as I possibly can.
blackwidow_dc
03-02-2005, 08:58 AM
[QUOTE=artfuldubber]I have never used a torque wrench on lugs to be perfectly honest... I just use the VW lug wrench and get those fuckers as tight as I possibly can.[/QUOTE]
yeah but you are a beastly man. you unseated an impacted bolt... hehe
golftdibrad
03-02-2005, 09:11 AM
I bought me a torque wrench after i broke a lug once, and almost had wheel-fall-of-itous another time. Bently says 80ft/lbs, but thats frekin tight! I usually do 60 or 70. 60 on the five lug car, 70 on the 4 lug car.
v-dub mikey
03-02-2005, 09:14 AM
a woman with an impact wrench.
whoa.
madcap
03-02-2005, 09:17 AM
yah, she can impact my wrench anytime
bigcfrmcinci
03-02-2005, 09:17 AM
i would torque them at least 60 lbs..that's tight!
LOL @ mIKE :p
blackwidow_dc
03-02-2005, 09:45 AM
thanks for all the input guys :)
i appreciate it
artfuldubber
03-02-2005, 10:02 AM
[QUOTE=BlackWidow_DC]yeah but you are a beastly man. you unseated an impacted bolt... hehe[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but I think it took at least five years off my life in blood pressure alone.
blackwidow_dc
03-02-2005, 10:09 AM
[QUOTE=artfuldubber]Yeah, but I think it took at least five years off my life in blood pressure alone.[/QUOTE]
im sorry :(
artfuldubber
03-02-2005, 10:12 AM
Its ok, I'm still happy I got the fucker off :D Besides, I don't really look forward to living to 100, so you probably did me a favor :D
repeelS
03-02-2005, 10:47 AM
hell, at that age Ted they give you viagra to keep you from rolling out of bed!
artfuldubber
03-02-2005, 10:53 AM
[QUOTE=repeels]hell, at that age Ted they give you viagra to keep you from rolling out of bed![/QUOTE]
And thats why I plan on punching out LONG before that. Ever heard that song Death by Misadventure?
"When I die Jack it's gonna be real cool"
Greanhouse
03-02-2005, 11:13 AM
the oem specs are 78lbs. Most tuners and race enthusiasts say 90-100lbs. for spirited driving. so, 70-100lbs or as far as you can get it. Hitting that 100 might be kinda hard.
SilverSport
03-02-2005, 11:28 AM
At least it's great to see there are 2 people here with good info.
As stated bentley says 80lbs. I torque mine to 90 .... the main reason is that when I bought the car they were wayyyyyyyyyy tighter than the spec 80. I use a 1/2" torque wrench. If you over tighten you risk rotor warpage and broken lugs, if you under tighten .... you risk your life.
Just had my tires changed recently ... the installer knew I had done some tuning on the car .... when he went to install the wheels he came to me and asked me if I wanted the bolts shot on or hand torqued ... you know what I chose and he got a $20 tip also.
blackwidow_dc
03-02-2005, 11:35 AM
ive always torqued at 70 without issues. i will bump it up for these. hopefully all goes well tonite. and it doesnt get too dark before im done...
1sikJetta
03-02-2005, 05:22 PM
[QUOTE=golftdibrad]I bought me a torque wrench after i broke a lug once, and almost had wheel-fall-of-itous another time. Bently says 80ft/lbs, but thats frekin tight! I usually do 60 or 70. 60 on the five lug car, 70 on the 4 lug car.[/QUOTE]
80ft/lbs is not a lot at all. the exact vw specs are actually 76 ft/lbs but you might be using an extension so you also have to compensate for that too. probably add on another 10 ft/lbs. most american cars use 85-100 ft/lbs and trucks/suv's use 100-150 ft/lbs depending on the actually vehicle. I'd say 85 ft/lbs should be perfect for you Paula. its what I use on my car
rodney
03-02-2005, 05:24 PM
I've been told by a vw tech 80-85 lbs is the best place to be
Greanhouse
03-02-2005, 11:45 PM
I knew there was going to be a kinda broad range. It sounds like the consensus is 85.:)
simbone
03-03-2005, 07:07 AM
I change my wheels alot and always use a torque wrench. I don't even allow a tire shop to mount my wheels on the hubs. I use 87 ft/lbs on both sets of my 18x7.5 alloy wheels, 5x100 bolt pattern. I had a tire shop mount them once and one lug bolt was loose when I got home, never again will I do that.
SilverSport
03-03-2005, 09:06 AM
Now that you have the wheels installed .... don't forget to check the torque on the lugs when the metal is not at a sub zero temperature.
I did a brakejob on my Mach1 many years ago in below freezing weather ... next day on the way to school lost 3 of the 5 lugnuts and the lock was also about to come off ... that was a 10 mile trip.
golftdibrad
03-03-2005, 09:08 AM
Damm.....Guess I need to get a bigger torque wrench:/
blackwidow_dc
03-03-2005, 09:09 AM
[QUOTE=SilverSport]Now that you have the wheels installed .... don't forget to check the torque on the lugs when the metal is not at a sub zero temperature.
I did a brakejob on my Mach1 many years ago in below freezing weather ... next day on the way to school lost 3 of the 5 lugnuts and the lock was also about to come off ... that was a 10 mile trip.[/QUOTE]
noted! Its only 26 here today... minus whatever the windchill is...
artfuldubber
03-03-2005, 09:27 AM
Windchill won't affect the temp of your wheels, its only a perceived temperature change. ;)
blackwidow_dc
03-03-2005, 09:30 AM
[QUOTE=artfuldubber]Windchill won't affect the temp of your wheels, its only a perceived temperature change. ;)[/QUOTE]
yeah til that wind hits the rim and makes it colder...
artfuldubber
03-03-2005, 09:32 AM
[QUOTE=BlackWidow_DC]yeah til that wind hits the rim and makes it colder...[/QUOTE]
Wind doesn't lower temperatures on inanimate objects, we only perceive it as being colder because it pulls heat away from our bodies. Since wheels don't produce heat, it doesn't affect them :D
Trust me on this one ;)
blackwidow_dc
03-03-2005, 09:34 AM
[QUOTE=artfuldubber]Wind doesn't lower temperatures on inanimate objects, we only perceive it as being colder because it pulls heat away from our bodies. Since wheels don't produce heat, it doesn't affect them :D
Trust me on this one ;)[/QUOTE]
i wasnt being serious... :p
artfuldubber
03-03-2005, 09:46 AM
[QUOTE=BlackWidow_DC]i wasnt being serious... :p[/QUOTE]
Oh thank god :D
blackwidow_dc
03-03-2005, 09:53 AM
[QUOTE=artfuldubber]Oh thank god :D[/QUOTE]
:rofl:
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