Wheels for the Deuce. Opinions?

[artfuldubber]

Come spring it is time for wheels, and I am trying to do some planning beforehand. So whatcha think?

The test subject:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/theartfuldubber/MR2%20Spyder/Tirerack.jpg

The Options:

ASA EM9 - Awesome Wheel, but at 19 lbs each for 15s.... yikes...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/theartfuldubber/MR2%20Spyder/asa_em9-15x7.jpg

Rota Track R - Lovin the old scheel look, not sure how it would look on the edgy MR2

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/theartfuldubber/MR2%20Spyder/RotaTrack-R.jpg

Nexo PX5 - Wider 5 spoke, I dig.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/theartfuldubber/MR2%20Spyder/WheelmaxPX5.gif

Flik Bullet-A - Slightly different play on the polished lip idea, and at 12.5 lbs each, yum.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/theartfuldubber/MR2%20Spyder/BulletA.jpg

Flik FTD - Similar to the OEM wheels, but with a lip

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/theartfuldubber/MR2%20Spyder/FlikFTD.jpg

SSW Haste - RS4 style, pretty clean. Also comes in silver.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/theartfuldubber/MR2%20Spyder/SSWHaste.jpg

SSW Trex - Flat 5 spoke, silver or titanium

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/theartfuldubber/MR2%20Spyder/SSWTrex.jpg

Cast your vote and tell me why :thumbsup: Multiple choice allowed.

[mk4gtiboy]

i casted my vote, and those rota track R would look good on an older car, if u were going more for an initial D kinda style

[kharma]

Rota or SSW Haste, more spokes = more better on the MR2 IMHO... wow those ASAs are fuggin HEAVY!

[Evolved]

Either Flik would be nice. Why 15's?

Have you checked out Gram lights?

[1sikJetta]

I'd say either SSW. very clean and unique look to them

[ibid]

oooooooo wheels wheels wheels.. Of course I had to vote ;)

[DragonEye]

you need a lip..

Flik FTD

and get gun metal

[artfuldubber]

[QUOTE=Evolved]Either Flik would be nice. Why 15's?

Have you checked out Gram lights?[/QUOTE]

I am looking for 15s or 16s, some styles are only available in one or the other. 17s require such a low profile that the ride would get a little too rough for a DD, plus the 17s I can afford are pretty heavy. I have looked at Gram Lights, they have a few I like, but nothing that really stands out.

The wells in the car are very small, anything over 16 and you are going to be raising the car, making it look like Shaq's rollerskate.

[golftdibrad]

Listen not to these naysayrs ted! Remember, smaller wheels mean less rotatioal inerta and unsprung weight. 15 inch an awsome comprimise between weight, ride comfort, sidewall height, and perhaps most importantally tire price. You can get a set of falken tires for less than 400 bucks and depending on your tire choice get anywhere from 15 to 40+ k miles out them.

I really like my yokohamma avid v4's for my daily tires. High tread wear rating and AA traction, low road noise, great comfort for a lower profile, stick very well for street driving. Mine are $80 a tire in 225/50/r16, so they are probally cheaper in your size if avaible. What tires are you thinking of going with out of curosity?

As for the rims, i like the look of the ASA EM9, but they are kinda heavy. My next choice on looks alone would be the filik FTD. A great compromise between looks, price, and weight would be the other filik choice. They are all nice IMHO except the rota track R.

Good luck dude, i'm sure you'll make an excellent choice, as usuall. you have good taste:thumbsup:

[kharma]

you know you want to :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/imsadb/rota%20wheel%20small/track%20r/trackr_redsmall.jpg

[Evolved]

[QUOTE=golftdibrad]Listen not to these naysayrs ted![/QUOTE]

I was just asking why, that's all. You ask one question out of curiosity and you get strung up for it.punch:

[golftdibrad]

[QUOTE=Evolved]I was just asking why, that's all. You ask one question out of curiosity and you get strung up for it.punch:[/QUOTE]

I was trying (usucessfully) to be funny. Chill dude, i wasn't stringing out anybody

[Evolved]

[QUOTE=golftdibrad]I was trying (usucessfully) to be funny. Chill dude, i wasn't stringing out anybody[/QUOTE]

irony >noun (pl. ironies) 2. a state of affairs that appears perversely contrary to what one expects.

[DigitalGulby]

I voted FTD...

[SnowboarderX]

i think the asa's would look tight

[psionix]

i added my vote

[VeedUp]

Flik FTD

thats my vote, I also voted for the S2000 instead of the toyota, oh wait that was a different thread.

[v-dub mikey]

SSW Trex - Flat 5 spoke, silver or titanium

[blackwidow_dc]

im likin the rotas

[severe]

i like the flik bullets.
light and likely cheap. look sweet too.

[repeelS]

[QUOTE=artfuldubber]

Flik Bullet-A - Slightly different play on the polished lip idea, and at [size=7][color=red]12.5 lbs each[/color][/size], yum.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/theartfuldubber/MR2%20Spyder/BulletA.jpg[/QUOTE]

Duh. Don't fuck up your car with 4 shiny new boatanchors. Keep it handling like a gokart. Form follows function.... not the other way around.



http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheels/ssr/swap/ssr_competition_ci3_l.jpg

[size=7][color=red]11.0 lbs each[/color][/size]. SSR Comp

makes the dizzle stand up!

[DragonEye]

go repeels!

[Evolved]

Do you really think you can notice a 6 pound difference. Also those SSR's are probably twice as much.

[severe]

6bl per wheel? will make a dif, weather u notice or not.
1.5 per wheel as much. (wasnt sure to which u were referring)
and those ssrs prolly do cost twice as much. might as well get 7lb gram lights or someshit.

[Evolved]

[QUOTE=severe]6bl per wheel? will make a dif, weather u notice or not.
1.5 per wheel as much. (wasnt sure to which u were referring)
and those ssrs prolly do cost twice as much. might as well get 7lb gram lights or someshit.[/QUOTE]

Total of six pounds. It was a rhetorical question, you won't notice a difference.

[golftdibrad]

[QUOTE=repeelS]Duh. Don't fuck up your car with 4 shiny new boatanchors. Keep it handling like a gokart. Form follows function.... not the other way around.





[size=7][color=red]11.0 lbs each[/color][/size]. SSR Comp

makes the dizzle stand up![/QUOTE]

I agree, go with the lightest thing that you can practically afford that is streetable. Weight reduction starts with wheels and tires, You'll feel the most difference from cutting weight there. The smaller diameter will keep that weight closer to the center of the wheel too. Another thing to consider is that light wheels have a tendency to be weaker, esp very light ones. So make sure they can take a few pot hole hits:deal:

[Evolved]

[QUOTE=golftdibrad]I agree, go with the lightest thing that you can practically afford that is streetable. Weight reduction starts with wheels and tires, You'll feel the most difference from cutting weight there. The smaller diameter will keep that weight closer to the center of the wheel too. Another thing to consider is that light wheels have a tendency to be weaker, esp very light ones. So make sure they can take a few pot hole hits:deal:[/QUOTE]

So you think Ted should spend twice as much just to save six pounds?

[golftdibrad]

...[QUOTE=Evolved]So you think Ted should spend twice as much just to save six pounds?[/QUOTE]



[QUOTE=golftdibrad]I agree, go with the lightest thing that you can practically afford that is streetable.[/QUOTE]

[Evolved]

Well I'm sure he can afford them but is it worth it?

[golftdibrad]

I'm not sure how ted or yourself does upgrages, but this is the logic i use.

1) what do i want? is it a pipe dream?
2) Get a few items that interest you in mind
3) ask yourself how much your willing to spend on said item(s)
4) Set a budget.
5) save for purchase, or if money is in hand, do it.

Looking at the choices Ted gave us i'm guessing he's looking spend in the neighborhood of around 1k on this. figure about 100 bucks each for tires and assoiated tires fees and that leaves in the neighborhood of 600 for rims. So, i'd go for the lightest decent looking rim i could buy for 600 smackers.

But thats just my humble opinion. Opinions are like assholes, everybodys got one.

[Evolved]

My way of doing things is to buy what I want, not what others tellmeto buy. By offering those choices for wheels it's clear that Ted doesn't want to spend a ton on wheels so suggesting that he should buy SSR's just to save six pounds is ridiculous.

Good job at avoiding the question.

For the record I have Volk's. I'm more than willing to spend ridiculous amounts of money on top notch wheels.:goofball:

[golftdibrad]

[QUOTE=Evolved]My way of doing things is to buy what I want, not what others tellmeto buy. By offering those choices for wheels it's clear that Ted doesn't want to spend a ton on wheels so suggesting that he should buy SSR's just to save six pounds is ridiculous.

Good job at avoiding the question.

For the record I have Volk's. I'm more than willing to spend ridiculous amounts of money on top notch wheels.:goofball:[/QUOTE]

look dude, i wasn't sugggesting that he run out and get the ssr's b/c someone said to, i was agreeing with reepels on the fact that he should get light wheels. I didn't avoid your question btw, as i'm sure SSR's are more than what he budgeted. You should chill out and drop the attidue, we're all friends here.:D

Name of site : eClubVW.com - Volkswagen & Audi Enthusiast Discussion Board.

If you can't handle a discussion and realize that poeple will have opinions that differ from your own, you just shouldn't post. I have nothing further to add to this discussion at this time as i feel it has been thourghlly beaten with a stick.

Perhaps we should get back on topic.

-Brad

[repeelS]

[QUOTE=severe]6bl per wheel? will make a dif, weather u notice or not.
1.5 per wheel as much. (wasnt sure to which u were referring)
and those ssrs prolly do cost twice as much. might as well get 7lb gram lights or someshit.[/QUOTE]

Dude, it's all about rotational inertia for acceleration and total unsprung weight for handling.

Ice skater - the closer they tuck the legs and arms the faster they can spin. Keeping the wheel diameter small, 15 as opposed to 17, keeps the weight of the rim closer to the hub making the wheel easier to spin. Keeping the wheel light also makes it easier to spin. With a little 4 cyl that makes little torque, the last thing you want is a big heavy set of 18s on it. It will waste much of the energy used to accelerate the car just to spool up the wheels! Light = quick. Ease up on the wheel weight and diameter and you gain acceleration.

The spring/shock combo is engineered to handle the car, but also keep the contact patch of the tire on the road. give that tire, wheel, brake, control arm, etc. added weight, the suspension will have a harder time controlling that contact thus adversely affecting the handling over bumps and such.




My main concern with my choice was preserving/improving the stellar handling of Mr. Duce.

I have started some shit I see. Nice.

[Evolved]

[QUOTE=golftdibrad]lYou should chill out and drop the attidue, we're all friends here.:D[/QUOTE]

The only attitude you are getting is from the way you choose to read my posts. I'm simply trying to have an open discussion. If you really think I'm being hostile then it's all in your head.

[Evolved]

[QUOTE=repeelS]
My main concern with my choice was preserving/improving the stellar handling of Mr. Duce.

I have started some shit I see. Nice.[/QUOTE]
So you tihnk the added weight savings of six pounds (total) is worth the extra cost?

[artfuldubber]

Everybody put their dick back in their pants, it's a wheel thread.

Since the car makes such little power at the moment and the long term goal is a car that can outaccelerate and outmanuever a Vette, lighter and smaller makes more sense. As was touched on by Brad and Jason, I am looking to put on a set of wheels that is light and affordable. My target price is in the $900-$1000 range and I have plenty of options in that range. The ones I posted were the ones I found, I am open to suggestion. I personally would love the SSRs, but until I crack and sell a kidney they just aren't in the cards. Everyone can feel free to chip in though.

Now unless you want to comment on the selections I made or offer up a set of wheels that would end up in the $1000 range with tires, relax, crack a brew and enjoy the rest of your day :thumbsup:

[Evolved]

Sorry Ted:(

[kharma]

no brews at work :(

[artfuldubber]

[QUOTE=Evolved]Sorry Ted:([/QUOTE]

I'll let it slide this time ;) Anything going on up in Philly for New Year's? Looking to do something unique, a very very good friend of mine is moving to Kansas to finish up grad school on the 3rd and we are trying to have a blowout to send her on her way.

[Evolved]

They usually have a thing at Penn's landing every year with fireworks and what not. Jim Norton, Colin Quinn and Rich Vos are going to be at the Tower theater new years eve as well.

[vw Neo]

[QUOTE=Evolved]So you think Ted should spend twice as much just to save six pounds?[/QUOTE]

no he should get the Flik Bullet, they are cheap and light.....;)

or the Nexo, they look nice:)

[kharma]

back from the dead :rofl:

[vw Neo]

indeed....I'm not sure whree I found this thread.....:;) I thought it was in the active topics

[artfuldubber]

Bwhahaha. Wheels have been on for months ;)

Enkei RP-02s - 17x7 @ 15.4 lbs per. Stockers will be covered in autocross rubber eventually.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/theartfuldubber/MR2%20Spyder/IMG_0654.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/theartfuldubber/MR2%20Spyder/IMG_0650.jpg

[golftdibrad]

Wow, Nice!